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Episode #26 – Founder-Led Scale in a PE-Backed World w/ Chuck Canton
Chuck Canton is a founder-operator who has lived every stage of the entrepreneurial journey — from running a deck-staining business in college to helping scale and sell a $70M+ communications company to Vonage, and ultimately to founding SourcePass, now a $100M+ managed services platform.
In this episode, Chuck breaks down what it actually takes to scale a services business in a fragmented market. He shares hard-earned lessons on capital strategy, M&A execution, founder-led culture, and why most entrepreneurs underestimate the cost of time, distraction, and misaligned investors.
This conversation is a masterclass for founders, operators, and private equity professionals navigating growth, capital, and scale in IT services and beyond.
Episode #25: The Pre-Middle Market Advantage - Finding Value Others Miss w/ Mason Myers
In this episode of The LAB Podcast, we sit down with Mason Myers, Founder of Greybull Stewardship, to explore how his firm consistently generates outsized returns in the pre-middle market—companies below $25M enterprise value and under $5M EBITDA.
Where most investors see risk, Greybull sees opportunity: strong business models with proven product–market fit, but lacking the execution muscle to scale. Mason walks us through their business-model-first investment strategy, their differentiated sourcing approach, and the operating frameworks that help small companies become true mid-market platforms.
We explore Greybull’s eight-step strategy process, how they reduce development risk during diligence, why their hold periods extend 7–10 years, and how they bring functional expertise to companies too small to build that capability internally.
Mason also shares a standout case study: a continuing-education business they helped transform from $1.4M to $6M EBITDA, shifting from in-person workshops to online subscriptions, expanding recurring revenue from 0% to 90%.
This is a masterclass in value creation for small companies with big potential.------
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Episode #24: Building Healthcare Platforms That Scale w/ Mark Gormley of Lee Equity Partners
In this episode of The LAB: Value Creation in Private Equity, Scott and Nick sit down with Mark Gormley, Founding Partner at Lee Equity Partners, to discuss how private equity can build lasting value in healthcare services.
Mark walks through his background in financial services and his 25+ years investing in healthcare, offering an inside look at how Lee Equity approaches physician practice management (PPM) and healthcare roll-ups.
The conversation dives into Solaris Health, one of Lee Equity’s standout success stories, exploring what made it work when so many PPM deals fail to scale.
The episode breaks down:
Why PPM roll-ups are among the hardest in private equity
How Lee Equity built Solaris into a national urology leader with 800+ providers
The balance between integration and physician autonomy
Lessons from cross-pollinating leaders and best practices across portfolio companies
It’s a masterclass in how to build a real business, not just aggregate EBITDA.
Episode #23: Building Fintech Infrastructure for the Future w/ Rob Heyvaert of Motive Partners
In this episode of #TheLAB, Scott Estill and Nick Creasey sit down with Rob Heyvaert, Founder and Managing Partner at Motive Partners.
Rob shares the arc of his career, from engineering the algorithm that powered the Euro’s clearing and settlement system, to building and scaling CAPCO, to founding Motive Partners, and the philosophy behind his firm’s success: combining investors, operators, and innovators to drive alpha in fintech.
They discuss:
How deep operational experience differentiates investors in financial technology.
Why WealthTech, particularly in private market infrastructure, is ripe for disruption.
The concept of a “frictionless network” connecting private markets, and why wealth advisors, investors, and entrepreneurs alike aren’t ready for the shift ahead.
Rob’s take on staying curious, the future of AI in financial services, and the discipline of knowing when not to act first.
Episode #22: Lessons from the Edge: Special Situations & Value Creation w/ Ari Lefkovits from Delos Capital
Ari Lefkovits from Delos Capital joins #TheLAB to unpack how his firm merges restructuring expertise with private equity investing to unlock value in complex situations.
From his time at Lazard to his current role at Delos, Ari explains how early preparation, coalition-building, and cultural alignment can turn distressed assets into success stories.
We cover:
How and when to act when “yellow lights” start flashing
Why culture often matters more than capital structure
Common mistakes sponsors make in special situations
How Delos balances advisory work and investment roles
A candid look at the intersection of capital solutions, partnership, and transformation in today’s private markets.
Episode #21: The Oxymoron of Liquid Private Equity w/ Jean-Louis Lelogeais & Randy Cohen
On this episode of The LAB Podcast: Value Creation in Private Equity, we sit down with Jean-Louis and Randy; two longtime friends and industry veterans who are redefining how investors access private equity.
Jean-Louis, co-founder of SVP, and Randy, a professor with deep roots in alternative investing, share how their journey led to building a business around what some call an oxymoron: liquid private equity.
We cover:
Why private equity has historically outperformed public markets
The challenge of liquidity and the innovation behind “liquid PE”
How CIOs, institutions, and even retail investors can integrate this model
The democratization of access to PE-type returns
This conversation explores the future of portfolio construction and why liquid private equity may be the next major innovation in the industry.
Episode #20: From CEO to Operating Partner: Lessons Across 30+ Companies w/ John Ioannou
In this episode of The LAB Podcast, we sit down with John Ioannou, a rare executive who has worn nearly every hat in the private equity ecosystem: CEO, chairman, operating partner, and investor.
John shares how his dual perspective as both operator and partner shaped his approach to building trust with management teams, why culture and leadership are just as critical as financial diligence, and how AI is reshaping competitive moats across industries.
We cover:
The evolving role of operating partners in private equity
Lessons from leading three roll-ups across different industries
Why integration, culture, and leadership can make or break enterprise value
The importance of mentorship as a force multiplier for talent
Whether you’re an investor, operator, or board member, John’s insights provide a roadmap for creating sustainable enterprise value in today’s market.
Episode #19: Building Onyx Canyon: A Father-Son Approach to Investing w/ Jim & Adam Hirshorn
Jim and Adam Hirshorn join The LAB Podcast to share the story behind launching Onyx Canyon Partners.
Together, they bring decades of operational and investment experience—from Bain, Sealy, Potbelly, and Ares—into the lower middle market, where they see a unique opportunity to drive value.
In this episode, we cover:
Why operators have an edge in private equity investing
How culture and talent alignment fuel long-term growth
Onyx Canyon’s investment thesis and first deal in youth sports
A conversation on bridging generations, building with values, and creating lasting impact in the private equity ecosystem.
Episode #18: Scaling Without Selling: Structured Capital w/Patrick Turner
Patrick Turner, Managing Director at VSS Capital Partners, joins Scott Estill and guest co-host Justin Wisnicki to unpack how structured capital enables founders to scale without giving up control.
They discuss:
VSS’s approach to minority investing with downside protection
How operational rigor creates value post-close
Why founders choose growth capital over a full sale
LP sentiment and the shift toward the lower middle market
600+ bolt-on acquisitions and what makes them work
If you're in private equity, a founder at an inflection point, or an operator focused on growth, this episode is a masterclass in alternative investing models and value creation.
Episode #17: GP Stakes & Growth Capital: Scaling the Middle Market with Ben Drylie-Perkins
In this episode of The LAB Podcast, hosts Scott Estill and Nick Creasey dive into the world of GP Stakes and flexible capital solutions with Ben Drylie-Perkins, Head of Investments at Cantilever Group. Ben provides insights into how Cantilever is uniquely positioned to support lower middle-market and middle-market private equity firms with capital and strategic guidance. The conversation covers the evolution of GP Stakes investing, the key challenges mid-market GPs face, and why a structured approach to liquidity and growth financing is crucial.
Ben also shares Cantilever’s differentiated investment strategy, emphasizing how they bring bulge-bracket expertise to an underserved segment. They discuss misconceptions about lower middle-market private equity, the importance of founder alignment, and what makes a successful fund manager. The episode is a must-listen for PE professionals, fund founders, and investors looking to better understand the GP finance landscape.
Episode #16: The Power of Digital in PE: Neil Bansal on Leveraging AI for Value Creation
This episode of #TheLAB, Nick and Scott are joined by Neil Bansal, Managing Director at OMERS Private Equity.
Neil shares his journey through investment banking, consulting, and leadership roles at major companies.
Learn how he’s driving value creation with AI, data, and digital tools to transform portfolio companies.
Perfect for finance and tech enthusiasts looking to understand the future of digital in private equity!
Disclaimer: The remarks included in this Podcast are for information purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice or a recommendation, solicitation, endorsement or offering for the sale, subscription or purchase of securities or for investment advisory services of any kind
Episode #15: AI-Powered Growth with Dave Leyrer
In this episode of The LAB, Scott and Nick chat with Dave Leyrer from 3L about Metropolis, a company transforming the parking industry with AI.
Discover how Metropolis uses AI to boost efficiency and customer experience, driving significant growth and strategic acquisitions like Premier Parking and SP Plus.
Dave shares insights into applying AI to traditional industries, highlighting the role of visionary leadership and strategic partnerships.
This episode offers valuable lessons on using AI to innovate and drive business success.
Disclaimer:
Any statements or references made by podcast participants regarding third parties, investments, or securities are solely their views and opinions and are not intended as investment advice, an offer to buy or sell any investments, or an endorsement of such parties or securities. No compensation has been paid to any podcast guests.
Episode #14: AI Revolution - Transforming Private Equity with Jon Lemelman
In this episode, Jon Lemelman joins us as we explore AI's transformative role in private equity.
We explore how AI is reshaping tasks like market research, replacing old-school methods with fast, data-driven insights.
Jon shares key strategies for integrating AI successfully, stressing the importance of clear problem-solving and secure data handling.
Discover the future of AI in private equity, from streamlining diligence processes to enhancing value creation.
Jon offers expert advice on navigating these changes, ensuring your firm stays ahead in today's competitive landscape.
Episode #13: Innovating for Enduring Value: A Conversation with Kevin McAllister
In this episode, The LAB hits the road! Join Scott down in Baltimore with Kevin McAllister, Founder of Access Holdings, as they discuss a wide range of topics:
Revolutionary strategies redefining entrepreneurship and partnership in the middle market
Deep market insights and cutting-edge technology utilization driving enduring value
The ACE program: Developing leaders and fostering growth
Data-driven decision-making for long-term success
Episode #12: Taking the Guess-Work out of Business Transformation: A Conversation with Paul Swaney
In this episode with Paul Swaney, Managing Partner of Swaney Group Capital, Paul shares actionable insights on value creation and business transformation. From the urgency of strategic onboarding to the establishment of a robust governance structure, Paul delves into his methodology of taking the guess-work out of business transformation. Whether you're a seasoned investor or new to the field, this podcast provides valuable strategies for driving success and maximizing returns.
Episode #11: Closing Deals Unseen - Data Driven Deal Sourcing with Nadim Malik
In our latest episode of #TheLAB Podcast: Value Creation in Private Equity we sit down with Nadim Malik, CEO of SPS by Bain & Co., an information services firm that helps private equity firms, lenders, and M&A advisors and service providers optimize their business development effectiveness
Episode #10: From CEO to Operating Partner: Strategies for Success in Business Growth w/Ray Carey
In our latest episode of #TheLAB Podcast: Value Creation in Private Equity we sit down with Ray Carey, a seasoned executive, C-suite veteran, and operating partner.
Episode 09: Technology Value Creation in PE #LIVE Event
We are excited to release our #LIVE event recording from November with three of the leaders in Private Equity Technology Value Creation: Steven Faas, Cory Eaves, and Rob Sears
Episode 08: Garrett Blank
Garrett Blank is an experience Private Equity Investor and former Principal at ABRY Partners.
Episode 07: Sean Mooney
Sean Mooney is Founder/CEO of BluWave.
After spending 20+ years in Private Equity as an investing and operating professional, he founded BluWave to support PE firms execute on their value creation initiatives.